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			<description>&lt;p&gt;MossKellner823:&amp;#32;Created page with 'Monthly I receive countless e-mails from consumers whove been bilked out [http://www.twitter.com/The_Paul_Crane Paul Crane] - of their hard earned dollars by unscrupulous supplem…'&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Monthly I receive countless e-mails from consumers whove been bilked out&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.twitter.com/The_Paul_Crane Paul Crane] - of their hard earned dollars by unscrupulous supplement / fat burner&lt;br /&gt;
manufacturers. Manufacturers whove added them to monthly recurring billing&lt;br /&gt;
cycles without their permission. Manufacturers who dont honor their money-back&lt;br /&gt;
guarantees, and, while providing a 1-800 number for refunds, such as the work with a&lt;br /&gt;
real, breathing person to observe this number. These manufacturers treat their&lt;br /&gt;
customers with disdain, plus general, regard them as little a lot more than sheep&lt;br /&gt;
who require to be parted from other money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The vast number of complaints I receive involve products marketed almost&lt;br /&gt;
extensively via...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i) radio advertisements&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ii) Internet e-mail and advertising campaigns&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
iii) television infomercials&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These items are usually marketed by companies who dont possess a regular&lt;br /&gt;
presence in the marketplace. These firms like to get this to appear to be a good&lt;br /&gt;
thing (i.e., exclusive T.V. offer!, and this strategy is not available in almost any&lt;br /&gt;
stores, so order now!). However, the contrary is usually the case. Why?&lt;br /&gt;
Selling via the Net, T.V. or radio causes it to be very easy for your manufacturer&lt;br /&gt;
to...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a) avoid accountability for the customer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
b) continue to sell a substandard product to a receptive audience&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To help expand outline the difficulties, lets create an example scenario with fictitious&lt;br /&gt;
companies X (which will sell its products in shops), and Y (which&lt;br /&gt;
sells online).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Suppose company X creates a new diet pill product using a full money-back&lt;br /&gt;
guarantee. They sell it in local marketplaces through well-known retailers.&lt;br /&gt;
Suppose you come in towards the retailer and buy that new diet pill. One month&lt;br /&gt;
later, prior to the label guarantee, you return the empty bottle for a&lt;br /&gt;
refund, feeling the product didnt surpass your expectations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.twitter.com/The_Paul_Crane Paul Crane] - A top quality, customer focused retailer will refund your money immediately, no&lt;br /&gt;
questions asked (if they dont, inform you youll be taking your business&lt;br /&gt;
elsewhere). That retailer will then demand their own refund from manufacturer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whats my point here?...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Inferior quality products threaten the local merchants credibility, and&lt;br /&gt;
power they have to work with the area audience. All things considered, no merchant who&lt;br /&gt;
states have your own interests in your mind while flogging a reduced product&lt;br /&gt;
usually stays running a business for long.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) Its impossible for any manufacturer in order to avoid accountability from our&lt;br /&gt;
retail market. In case a product yields way too many refunds, the local merchant will&lt;br /&gt;
have to stop selling it. Like that merchant needs your repeat&lt;br /&gt;
business for his/her other products. When the merchant will not treat you well,&lt;br /&gt;
s/he loses the chance of losing All of your business. Regardless, in essence&lt;br /&gt;
how the local retailer has to stop ordering in the manufacturer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) Goods that generate lots of refund requests tend to be more benefit the&lt;br /&gt;
retailer than ones that wont. Merchants is not going to carry this type of product for&lt;br /&gt;
long.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OK, cell phone the other side from the coin.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Suppose company Y results in a new fat burner (protected by a 100% money-back&lt;br /&gt;
guarantee) and markets it via infomercials, radio ads, as well as the Internet. Suppose&lt;br /&gt;
you buy the product, and then attempt to get a refund when you discover the&lt;br /&gt;
companys product unsatisfactory. Heres where things get interesting...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike the local merchant, who needs to keep you happy to earn your repeat&lt;br /&gt;
business, company Y knows its unlikely to ever read your comments again. So it&lt;br /&gt;
can make it as difficult as you possibly can to obtain a refund. Its 1-800# plays an&lt;br /&gt;
endless loop message for 45 minutes. Its nearly unattainable a genuine human&lt;br /&gt;
being to talk to.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Best of luck getting your refund.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So when you purchase products in this way, often you will get included with a recurring&lt;br /&gt;
billing option without your consent. Put simply, youll receive another&lt;br /&gt;
bottle from the product every Thirty days along with your charge card is going to be charged&lt;br /&gt;
accordingly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Again, good luck getting the refund.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bottom line?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Advertising and selling in this way can make it super easy for that manufacturer&lt;br /&gt;
to avoid the matter of accountability towards the customer. And a lot manufacturers use&lt;br /&gt;
sales departments, professional warehousing and dropship facilities to help&lt;br /&gt;
isolate themselves from experience of their potential customers. Most likely should you&lt;br /&gt;
order this kind of product, you will not get yourself a company representative on the telephone, but a&lt;br /&gt;
call-center employee with performance-based incentives. Would be that the sort of&lt;br /&gt;
company you want to sell to?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By declining to sell their products in the local retail environment, manufacturers&lt;br /&gt;
have the ability to isolate themselves in the local merchants who could demand large&lt;br /&gt;
volumes of refunds, and threaten their business by refusing to stock a&lt;br /&gt;
low-quality product. Additionally, it also can make it more difficult for bad&lt;br /&gt;
product word-of-mouth circulation amongst consumers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are several recommendations I have for getting weight reducers or another&lt;br /&gt;
supplements...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Dont purchase products advertised in the media, the air, or perhaps the Internet unless...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a) those products CAN by bought in a local retailer. This way, you should have&lt;br /&gt;
some recourse should you be unhappy with all the product. Without all companies&lt;br /&gt;
who advertise in this manner are deceptive or unethical, there is greater&lt;br /&gt;
likelihood you may experience an issue having a merchant who advertises in this&lt;br /&gt;
manner and will not maintain a local presence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
b) the merchandise is sold by a well-recognized, respectable brand company.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) Obtain only well-recognized manufacturers having a established history within the&lt;br /&gt;
supplement industry (e.g.., MuscleTech, Isatori, Champion Nutrition, BioTest,&lt;br /&gt;
EAS, etc). I am not saying the main brands always create better products.&lt;br /&gt;
Im saying, however, that the brand and reputation entails something to&lt;br /&gt;
them, and so they do recognize the need for a permanent repeat customer. 9 times&lt;br /&gt;
out of 10, for those who have a problem with an item, you are able to phone such a&lt;br /&gt;
manufacturer for a refund directly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.twitter.com/The_Paul_Crane Paul Crane] - On the other hand, products marketed online or in the media do not have a brand. So&lt;br /&gt;
it does not matter what are the reputation of that brand is, or the way it resonates&lt;br /&gt;
with consumers, considering that the manufacturer will simply develop a brand new one for the following&lt;br /&gt;
product.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) Begin a relationship having a local or online merchant, to make your entire&lt;br /&gt;
purchases from that merchant. Trusted, valued customers can always place their&lt;br /&gt;
complaints to some good merchant, you never know its in his/her welfare to look&lt;br /&gt;
after them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the long run, losing weight is difficult enough without having to worry about losing&lt;br /&gt;
your cash, too. The best choice should be to purchase brand products from a&lt;br /&gt;
trusted local retailer.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:28:21 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>MossKellner823</dc:creator>			<comments>https://pm.haifa.ac.il/index.php?title=User_talk:MossKellner823</comments>		</item>
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			<title>MossKellner823</title>
			<link>https://pm.haifa.ac.il/index.php?title=MossKellner823</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;MossKellner823:&amp;#32;Created page with 'Monthly I receive countless e-mails from consumers whove been bilked out [http://www.twitter.com/The_Paul_Crane Paul Crane] - of their hard earned dollars by unscrupulous supplem…'&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Monthly I receive countless e-mails from consumers whove been bilked out&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.twitter.com/The_Paul_Crane Paul Crane] - of their hard earned dollars by unscrupulous supplement / fat burner&lt;br /&gt;
manufacturers. Manufacturers whove added them to monthly recurring billing&lt;br /&gt;
cycles without their permission. Manufacturers who dont honor their money-back&lt;br /&gt;
guarantees, and, while providing a 1-800 number for refunds, such as the work with a&lt;br /&gt;
real, breathing person to observe this number. These manufacturers treat their&lt;br /&gt;
customers with disdain, plus general, regard them as little a lot more than sheep&lt;br /&gt;
who require to be parted from other money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The vast number of complaints I receive involve products marketed almost&lt;br /&gt;
extensively via...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i) radio advertisements&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ii) Internet e-mail and advertising campaigns&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
iii) television infomercials&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These items are usually marketed by companies who dont possess a regular&lt;br /&gt;
presence in the marketplace. These firms like to get this to appear to be a good&lt;br /&gt;
thing (i.e., exclusive T.V. offer!, and this strategy is not available in almost any&lt;br /&gt;
stores, so order now!). However, the contrary is usually the case. Why?&lt;br /&gt;
Selling via the Net, T.V. or radio causes it to be very easy for your manufacturer&lt;br /&gt;
to...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a) avoid accountability for the customer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
b) continue to sell a substandard product to a receptive audience&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To help expand outline the difficulties, lets create an example scenario with fictitious&lt;br /&gt;
companies X (which will sell its products in shops), and Y (which&lt;br /&gt;
sells online).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Suppose company X creates a new diet pill product using a full money-back&lt;br /&gt;
guarantee. They sell it in local marketplaces through well-known retailers.&lt;br /&gt;
Suppose you come in towards the retailer and buy that new diet pill. One month&lt;br /&gt;
later, prior to the label guarantee, you return the empty bottle for a&lt;br /&gt;
refund, feeling the product didnt surpass your expectations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.twitter.com/The_Paul_Crane Paul Crane] - A top quality, customer focused retailer will refund your money immediately, no&lt;br /&gt;
questions asked (if they dont, inform you youll be taking your business&lt;br /&gt;
elsewhere). That retailer will then demand their own refund from manufacturer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whats my point here?...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Inferior quality products threaten the local merchants credibility, and&lt;br /&gt;
power they have to work with the area audience. All things considered, no merchant who&lt;br /&gt;
states have your own interests in your mind while flogging a reduced product&lt;br /&gt;
usually stays running a business for long.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) Its impossible for any manufacturer in order to avoid accountability from our&lt;br /&gt;
retail market. In case a product yields way too many refunds, the local merchant will&lt;br /&gt;
have to stop selling it. Like that merchant needs your repeat&lt;br /&gt;
business for his/her other products. When the merchant will not treat you well,&lt;br /&gt;
s/he loses the chance of losing All of your business. Regardless, in essence&lt;br /&gt;
how the local retailer has to stop ordering in the manufacturer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) Goods that generate lots of refund requests tend to be more benefit the&lt;br /&gt;
retailer than ones that wont. Merchants is not going to carry this type of product for&lt;br /&gt;
long.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OK, cell phone the other side from the coin.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Suppose company Y results in a new fat burner (protected by a 100% money-back&lt;br /&gt;
guarantee) and markets it via infomercials, radio ads, as well as the Internet. Suppose&lt;br /&gt;
you buy the product, and then attempt to get a refund when you discover the&lt;br /&gt;
companys product unsatisfactory. Heres where things get interesting...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike the local merchant, who needs to keep you happy to earn your repeat&lt;br /&gt;
business, company Y knows its unlikely to ever read your comments again. So it&lt;br /&gt;
can make it as difficult as you possibly can to obtain a refund. Its 1-800# plays an&lt;br /&gt;
endless loop message for 45 minutes. Its nearly unattainable a genuine human&lt;br /&gt;
being to talk to.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Best of luck getting your refund.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So when you purchase products in this way, often you will get included with a recurring&lt;br /&gt;
billing option without your consent. Put simply, youll receive another&lt;br /&gt;
bottle from the product every Thirty days along with your charge card is going to be charged&lt;br /&gt;
accordingly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Again, good luck getting the refund.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bottom line?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Advertising and selling in this way can make it super easy for that manufacturer&lt;br /&gt;
to avoid the matter of accountability towards the customer. And a lot manufacturers use&lt;br /&gt;
sales departments, professional warehousing and dropship facilities to help&lt;br /&gt;
isolate themselves from experience of their potential customers. Most likely should you&lt;br /&gt;
order this kind of product, you will not get yourself a company representative on the telephone, but a&lt;br /&gt;
call-center employee with performance-based incentives. Would be that the sort of&lt;br /&gt;
company you want to sell to?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By declining to sell their products in the local retail environment, manufacturers&lt;br /&gt;
have the ability to isolate themselves in the local merchants who could demand large&lt;br /&gt;
volumes of refunds, and threaten their business by refusing to stock a&lt;br /&gt;
low-quality product. Additionally, it also can make it more difficult for bad&lt;br /&gt;
product word-of-mouth circulation amongst consumers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are several recommendations I have for getting weight reducers or another&lt;br /&gt;
supplements...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1) Dont purchase products advertised in the media, the air, or perhaps the Internet unless...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
a) those products CAN by bought in a local retailer. This way, you should have&lt;br /&gt;
some recourse should you be unhappy with all the product. Without all companies&lt;br /&gt;
who advertise in this manner are deceptive or unethical, there is greater&lt;br /&gt;
likelihood you may experience an issue having a merchant who advertises in this&lt;br /&gt;
manner and will not maintain a local presence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
b) the merchandise is sold by a well-recognized, respectable brand company.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) Obtain only well-recognized manufacturers having a established history within the&lt;br /&gt;
supplement industry (e.g.., MuscleTech, Isatori, Champion Nutrition, BioTest,&lt;br /&gt;
EAS, etc). I am not saying the main brands always create better products.&lt;br /&gt;
Im saying, however, that the brand and reputation entails something to&lt;br /&gt;
them, and so they do recognize the need for a permanent repeat customer. 9 times&lt;br /&gt;
out of 10, for those who have a problem with an item, you are able to phone such a&lt;br /&gt;
manufacturer for a refund directly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.twitter.com/The_Paul_Crane Paul Crane] - On the other hand, products marketed online or in the media do not have a brand. So&lt;br /&gt;
it does not matter what are the reputation of that brand is, or the way it resonates&lt;br /&gt;
with consumers, considering that the manufacturer will simply develop a brand new one for the following&lt;br /&gt;
product.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3) Begin a relationship having a local or online merchant, to make your entire&lt;br /&gt;
purchases from that merchant. Trusted, valued customers can always place their&lt;br /&gt;
complaints to some good merchant, you never know its in his/her welfare to look&lt;br /&gt;
after them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the long run, losing weight is difficult enough without having to worry about losing&lt;br /&gt;
your cash, too. The best choice should be to purchase brand products from a&lt;br /&gt;
trusted local retailer.&lt;/div&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:28:15 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>MossKellner823</dc:creator>			<comments>https://pm.haifa.ac.il/index.php?title=Talk:MossKellner823</comments>		</item>
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